Thank you!
I also found some glitches with āuntranslatedā fields.
If i iopen up a structure entry in the non default language for the first time it looks like this:
After saving it and reopening it looks like this:
The untranslated settings are gone⦠why?
How can i get a structure element in a template in a non default language filled up with the untranslated/global values from the default language?
E.g. i am in a "en"glish view, ādeā is the default and there are some fields with the ātranslate:falseā setting. This fields should be āmergedā to the āenā page object? How?
best Regards,
Sven
Hm, I canāt reproduce this. Could you please post your blueprint for testing? And maybe a step by step instruction on how to reproduce this?
Sure. Here it is:
title: Formular
pages: true
files: true
fields:
title:
label: Title
type: text
text:
label: Text
type: textarea
ffields:
label: Formular
type: structure
#style: table
modalsize: large
entry: >
<u><b>{{_fieldtype}}  </b></u> Name: <i>{{_fieldname}}</i> ID: <b>{{_fieldid}}</b>
fields:
_fieldtype:
width: 1/3
required: true
translate: false
label:
de: Eingabetyp
en: Field type
type: select
options:
_text: Text
_textarea: Textarea
_radio: Radio
_check: Checkbox
_select: Selectbox
_submit: Submit button
_layout: Layout
_info: Info text
_fieldname:
width: 1/3
label:
de: Feldname
en: Field name
type: text
_fieldid:
width: 1/3
label:
de: Feld-ID
en: Field id
type: text
translate: false
_visibility:
label:
de: Sichtbarkeit
en: Visibility
type: checkboxes
translate: false
width: 2/3
#default: _visible
options:
_visible:
de: Unsichtbar
en: Invisible
_fieldmeta:
label:
de: Feld Meta Daten
en: Field meta data
type: textarea
- create a entry in default language
- save
- change to non default language
- open the entry
- save
- open again
-> non translated values are gone
It doesnāt matter whether is saved to the non default languages untranslateble fields⦠on the template i need a āmergedā version for the selected language⦠the data from the default language merged/partly overwritten with the current selected language. How can i do this programmatically?
Iāll try to look into this asap. My first test did not even show the entry in the English view ā¦
I have created another issue on GitHub. Unfortunately, I canāt test this in Kirby 2.4.0 beta because of another issue.
Thank you!
I hope it is fixable soon because my project(s) rely heavily on the structure and translation features.
best regards,
Sven
It just seems strange that this issue hasnāt surfaced earlier. Did it work in a previous version of Kirby?
I donāt know. In what version the ātranslate:falseā blueprint option was introduced?
Where can i get this old versions starterKit?
S.
Maybe the behaviour is intentional after all:
Since Kirby 2.2.3, the contents of an untranslatable field will be emptied in all languages but the default language.
https://getkirby.com/docs/panel/blueprints/form-fields#prevent-field-values-in-non-default-languages
Hm, it seems so.
But how can i āmergeā the data on a template?
S.
That should be automatic, as Kirby falls back to the default language if the value of the non-default language is empty.
Should but want do it here. I get NULL for all untranslateble fields:
<?php $ffields = yaml($page->ffields());var_dump($ffields); ?>
gives me:
[6]=>
array(5) {
["_fieldtype"]=>
NULL
["_fieldname"]=>
string(8) "Das Info"
["_fieldid"]=>
NULL
["_visibility"]=>
NULL
["_fieldmeta"]=>
string(22) "Das ist ein Info Text."
}
[7]=>
array(5) {
["_fieldtype"]=>
NULL
["_fieldname"]=>
string(4) "Send"
["_fieldid"]=>
NULL
["_visibility"]=>
NULL
["_fieldmeta"]=>
string(0) ""
}
Also the invisibility of untranslateble values from default language in the panel looks very strange. it would be nice if the grayed out fields display the values from the default language even if they will be emptied at save.
As far as I know, content is not inherited inside structure fields. Only the whole field is inherited if itās completely empty. So this is indeed a bug.
Inheriting the whole field only if the field is completely empty makes no sense at all.
Yes, I agree with you.
For structure fields not, for all other field types yes.
Thatās just an issue that canāt be solved within the core as the core doesnāt know about field types. Thatās why the Panel would need to set the value on save.
Yes, the āproblemā with the structure field is that as a whole, it is a field, but the āsubfieldsā are not fields themselves for Kirby.