Kirby 4 and languages

I’m creating a new website in Kirby 4 and try to find good conventions to work with the languages, and have a few questions:

  1. Permissions: in K3, I usually disable access to languages for editors and only allowed admins/devs to manage them.
    • In K4, this setup is not working since there is now a view in the panel where editors can manage the language variables. Hence, I’m looking for a way to allow editors to manage the language variables, but not language settings (nor adding/deleting them).
  2. GIT setup: in K3, I usually committed /site/languages to the git repo, since these settings were maintained by the website dev. Within each language, I outsourced the language variables to another location like this: 'translations' => Yaml::decode(F::read(kirby()->root('storage').'/language-vars/en.yml')) for en.php.
    • In K4, is something like this possible?
    • Ideally, I’ld commit the language settings to the repo, and the language variables to another location. But then I’m afraid the panel views to manage the language vars don’t work anymore.

Thx!

Ad 1: I’d say you would have to customize the languages view if you still want to use the language variables feature. And create a feature request for more fine-grained permissions.

Ad 2: Storing the translations in a separate file works, at least when they are stored as array instead of yaml.

    'translations' => require(__DIR__ . '/translations/en.php'),
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Thank you @texnixe :blush:

  1. Too bad that isn’t supported currently. I’ll add a FR to nolt :+1:
  2. This indeed still works when passing a regular array :+1:

Added: https://kirby.nolt.io/606

Please go upvote y’all :innocent:

@texnixe, I’ve just tested updating a language variable from the panel in this setup, but this results in the whole array being added to /site/languages/en.php instead of to /translations/en.php

Am I doing it wrong? This is my exact piece of code: translations' => require(kirby()->root('storage') . '/language_variables/en.php') from with /site/languages/en.php

Yes, you are right. The same happens when adding new items, so doesn’t seem to work after all, only for reading :thinking:

Thanks for confirming this. Would you consider this a bug / regression?

Maybe rather a missing feature, since there was no way to edit variables via the Panel before… But maybe add it in GitHub, we can always close it when it is not considered a bug.

Haven’t found the time yet to find where the logic happens and if there is a workaround.

Done: External language variables setup no longer works since K4's language views · Issue #6176 · getkirby/kirby · GitHub !

Please let me know if you find a workaround :pray: