# Troubleshooting routes **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions\ **Tags:** v3\ **Created:** [June 22, 2022, 9:27am UTC](https://forum.getkirby.com/t/troubleshooting-routes/25784 "2022-06-22T09:27:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1

**Author:** ![plagasul](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.getkirby.com/plagasul/32/4199_2.png) [@plagasul](https://forum.getkirby.com/u/plagasul)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 9:27am UTC](https://forum.getkirby.com/t/troubleshooting-routes/25784/1 "2022-06-22T09:27:35Z")

I am always having problems with writing the right routes. I am usually getting 404’s without understanding exactly why, and kind of finding the route via trial and error. For example, considering I have `` see this simplified jquery ajax call: ```auto $.ajax({ type: "POST", url: $("body").data("homeurl") + "/pop-artwork", data: { id: id, all_ids: all_ids, }, success: function (res) { res = JSON.parse(res); $("#modal-1 .modal-body").html(res); }, error: function (jqXHR, exception) { console.log(jqXHR); }, }); ``` In my localhost, this is pointing to: `http://localhost/~jaume/dev/nb/en/pop-artwork` And this is my attempt at a route to match that url ```auto [ 'pattern' => '(:any)/pop-artwork', 'action' => function () { $id = get('id'); $all_ids = get('all_ids'); try { return json_encode(snippet('pop-artwork', array('id' => $id, 'all_ids' => $all_ids), true)); } catch (Exception $ex) { return $ex->getMessage(); } } ], ``` That results in a 404 I’ve also tried the following patterns, that as far as I understand, should work, but return 404 as well ```auto '(en|es|ca)/pop-artwork' '(:any)/(en|es|ca)/pop-artwork' '(:all)pop-artwork' ``` So, is there any way to produce a list of the urls a route should match to via PHP? And, in general what am I missing here? Thank you ---

**Author:** ![moonwalk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/53a042/32.png) [@moonwalk](https://forum.getkirby.com/u/moonwalk)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 9:56am UTC](https://forum.getkirby.com/t/troubleshooting-routes/25784/2 "2022-06-22T09:56:27Z")

> [@plagasul](#): > > ` 'pattern' => '(:any)/pop-artwork',` The routes are always based on the base site url, so in this case, should be just `'pattern' => 'pop-artwork', but since it's a multi-language site, set the language scope as well (in this case to`\*`): > **[Routing](https://getkirby.com/docs/guide/routing#multi-language-setup__language-scope)** > > Use Kirby's router to modify URLs or provide extra functionality when the user calls an given URI pattern. ---

**Author:** ![plagasul](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.getkirby.com/plagasul/32/4199_2.png) [@plagasul](https://forum.getkirby.com/u/plagasul)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 10:06am UTC](https://forum.getkirby.com/t/troubleshooting-routes/25784/3 "2022-06-22T10:06:39Z")

Thank you, This does not work either: ```auto ... 'pattern' => 'pop-artwork', 'language' => '*', 'action' => function () { ... ``` Also, I assumed language was only needed if I wanted to render a page, while I am returning a snippet here. ---

**Author:** ![plagasul](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.getkirby.com/plagasul/32/4199_2.png) [@plagasul](https://forum.getkirby.com/u/plagasul)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 11:02am UTC](https://forum.getkirby.com/t/troubleshooting-routes/25784/4 "2022-06-22T11:02:40Z")

Ok, in this case, as I was POSTing to the route, it seems I was missing the method in the route code, so: ``` [ 'pattern' => '(:any)/pop-artwork', 'method' => 'POST', 'action' => function () { $id = get('id'); $all_ids = get('all_ids'); try { return json_encode(snippet('pop-artwork', array('id' => $id, 'all_ids' => $all_ids), true)); } catch (Exception $ex) { return $ex->getMessage(); } } ], ``` It also works with the pattern `(:all)/pop-artwork` but not with `pop-artwork` solely. Also, I found a way to troubleshoot the route is to change method to GET, then manually hitting the expected urls in the browser. Cheers!