# Subpages builder and visibility **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions\ **Tags:** v2\ **Created:** [April 8, 2017, 10:25am UTC](https://forum.getkirby.com/t/subpages-builder-and-visibility/7186 "2017-04-08T10:25:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Malvese](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.getkirby.com/malvese/32/12375_2.png) [@Malvese](https://forum.getkirby.com/u/Malvese)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2017, 10:25am UTC](https://forum.getkirby.com/t/subpages-builder-and-visibility/7186/1 "2017-04-08T10:25:01Z")
It seems pages created by the builder are visible/published by default, unless `status: false` is set in the pages’ options. Is there a way, in the blueprint, to create subpages with the builder that are both visible _and_ have `status: false`? I suspect I’ll need a hook to make these subpages visible… ---
**Author:** ![texnixe](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.getkirby.com/texnixe/32/5754_2.png) [@texnixe](https://forum.getkirby.com/u/texnixe)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2017, 7:28pm UTC](https://forum.getkirby.com/t/subpages-builder-and-visibility/7186/2 "2017-04-08T19:28:55Z")
Yes, that is possible (at least if I understand you correctly). You have to set the status option in the blueprints for the subpages that are created by the builder. ---
**Author:** ![Malvese](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.getkirby.com/malvese/32/12375_2.png) [@Malvese](https://forum.getkirby.com/u/Malvese)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2017, 5:59pm UTC](https://forum.getkirby.com/t/subpages-builder-and-visibility/7186/3 "2017-04-09T17:59:12Z")
Hum, interesting. I tried on a 2.3 site and found it didn’t work. After updating to 2.4.1 it works as expected. When I initially tried, subpages with `status: false` were created as invisible even though I gave them an order with `num: 1` and so on. Thank you for your reply, it led me to update the site before I tried again. The lesson is: always update before asking questions 😃 ---
**Author:** ![distantnative](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.getkirby.com/distantnative/32/11319_2.png) [@distantnative](https://forum.getkirby.com/u/distantnative)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2025, 4:50pm UTC](https://forum.getkirby.com/t/subpages-builder-and-visibility/7186/4 "2025-02-06T16:50:13Z")
Archived on February 6, 2025, 4:50pm UTC